Just the Facts – What’s the deal with Lansdowne?

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Post by Phil Castro

Being an Urban Planner frequently earns me questions from friends and new people I meet. In Ottawa the most common question is “Why the f**k do I have to drive to Kanata to go to hockey game?” On occasion I will get “Is this a good price for a condo?”, but most recently it has been “What’s the deal with Lansdowne?” The simple answer to that last question is that, next to transit, it is the single most important issue our City has faced in a very long time and you should care, thanks for asking. The long answer is as follows, but I’ll do my best to be brief.

  • October 2007 – Over two years ago our City Council voted to demolish the lower south-side stands of Frank Clair Stadium (south side sucks anyway, right?)
  • November of 2007 – A month later City Council passed a motion initiating a design competition process for Lansdowne. In the December 2007 budget, they committed funds to what became the “Design Lansdowne” international design competition showing a glimpse of innovation – somehow I think we all knew that couldn’t last.
  • March 2008 – Then, with the surprise of a flea flicker play, the CFL awarded a football franchise to Ottawa businessmen Bill Shenkman, Roger Greenberg, and John Ruddy on the condition that they could secure a stadium agreement with City of Ottawa within 4 – 6 months. They must have gotten right down to business because that June City staff advised City Council via a memo that the “Design Lansdowne” initiative was to be put on hold until mid-Fall 2008, in order to review stadium conditions and a proposal from the CFL conditional franchise owners.
  • July 2008 – On a lazy Sunday morning the lower south-side stands of Frank Clair Stadium were finally torn down due to structural concerns (remember the south side sucks anyway).
  • August 2008 – Near the end of the summer, the City commissioned a Needs Analysis for Multi-Purpose Sports and Entertainment Facilities. This study was officially undertaken “to assist the City in determining whether there was/is a requirement to seek new facilities and/or to expand or renovate existing facilities in the City in order to solidify and strengthen Ottawa’s position in attracting major sporting events, conventions and trade shows, as well as meeting the needs of the community.” I’m sure this seemed like a good idea at the time.
  • October 2008 – Then it started getting exciting when, complete with pretty pictures, the City received an unsolicited proposal dubbed “Lansdowne Live” from the Ottawa Sports and Entertainment Group (OSEG). OSEG consisted of Bill Shenkman, Roger Greenberg, and John Ruddy… none other than the conditional CFL franchise owners from above.
  • November 2008 – A month later City Council set aside a motion to resume the “Design Lansdowne” competition until City staff had reviewed the Lansdowne Live proposal. (I have searched for the results of this vote with little luck, if someone has it please post a link).
  • February 2009 – The waters became muddy when the City received and released the ‘Needs Analysis for Multi-Purpose Sports and Entertainment Facilities’ it had commissioned the summer before (see above). The study concluded that the requirement for new major sports facilities in Ottawa would be driven by a major need, either facility replacements and/or the need associated with a specific use such as a professional team locating or relocating to Ottawa. The study also concluded that Ottawa could not realistically support more than one new major facility in the near or even medium term. Lansdowne was ranked as the 6th best site in the city for a stadium with a Bayview location ranking 1st. In my experience, for every study written there can usually be another study that says something else…just saying is all.
  • March 2009 – A month later the City received a proposal from the OSEG prompting City Council to decide on a process for assessing and reviewing the unsolicited stadium proposal.
  • April 2009 – Lines were drawn in the sand (or should I say around the Greenbelt) when our City Council passed a motion directing staff to negotiate a partnership agreement with the OSEG to revitalize Lansdowne as the City’s stadium priority project that included a requirement for a comprehensive public consultation process prior to a final decision by Council.

Results of April 22, 2009 council vote on entering into sole-sourced negotiations with Lansdowne Live developers. The end result was 14 Yes, 9 No:

West Carleton-March Councillor Eli El-Chantiry yes
Kanata North Councillor Marianne Wilkinson yes
College Councillor Rick Chiarelli yes
Gloucester-South Nepean Councillor Steve Desroches yes
Barrhaven Councillor Jan Harder yes
Kanata West-Stittsville Councillor Shad Qadri yes
Rideau-Goulbourn Councillor Glenn Brooks yes
Innes Councillor Rainer Bloess yes
Gloucester-Southgate Councillor Diane Deans yes
Knoxdale-Merivale Councillor Gord Hunter yes
Cumberland Councillor Rob Jellett yes
Orleans Councillor Bob Monette yes
River Councillor Maria McRae yes
Mayor Larry O’Brien yes
Somerset Councillor Diane Holmes no
Capital Councillor Clive Doucet no
Alta Vista Councillor Peter Hume no
Rideau-Rockcliffe Councillor Jacques Legrendre no
Bay Councillor Alex Cullen no
Kanata South Councillor Peggy Feltmate no
Beacon Hill-Cryville Councillor Michel Bellemare no
Rideau-Vanier Councillor Georges Bedard no
Kitchissippi Councillor Christine Leadman no
Osgoode Councillor Doug Thompson no

 

  • September 2009 – Five months later, after a summer of negotiations between City Staff and the OSEG, City Council agreed to move forward with public consultations on what was renamed the Lansdowne Partnership Plan. Subsequently, as reported extensively in the local media through September and into October, the first phase of consultations began with a series of six public open houses held across our City and e-consultation platform, complete with kumbaya sit-ins and a propaganda campaign.
  • November 2009 – Led by Councillor Clive Doucet, a group of politicians from various levels of government gathered to oppose the Lansdowne Partnership Plan and what they call a “sole-source process” on November 9th. (Sole-source is basically a non-competitive process that is accomplished after soliciting and negotiating with only one source).
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    What’s going to happen next…

    On November 12, the City’s Office of the Auditor General will determine whether of not ‘the process being followed is legitimate and is neither inappropriate nor illegal’. At that time, Council will also be hearing public delegations on the Lansdowne Partnership Plan. Residents who would like to make a verbal presentation can contact Tania Mercure by phone at 613-580-2424, ext. 21801 or by e-mail at tania.mercure@ottawa.ca.

    It is also expected that Councillor Doucet will table a motion to re-initiate a public competitive process for Lansdowne and select an appropriate stadium site…The big question: Will he pay for it too? He is also organizing a rally from noon to 1pm on Friday, November 13th at the Lisgar Street entrance to City Hall. Another question: Will there be hot dogs and burgers?

    The big day is November 16, 2009 when City Council will vote on continuing or squashing the Lansdowne Live / Lansdowne Partnership Plan.

    There is much more to say, but the goal here was to represent the facts. Also, notice that I did not call Lansdowne a ‘Park’ anywhere in this piece…The reason for that is simple….Lansdowne is not a park.

    12 Responses to “Just the Facts – What’s the deal with Lansdowne?”


    1. 1 David Sappleton

      You’ve captured the issue perfectly. I’m wondering where it goes from here if it does end up in an international open competition again.

      Going back to an open competition means a shovel won’t be in the ground for many years . It’ll take at least two years for a competition, plus more presentations and public meetings for the competition, more public forum debates for discussion (and complaints), and another year to finalize engineering and construction details.

      The only reason to ever go to a competition is because there are no plans by anybody at the point in time. Had this proposal been on the table at the time they were considering what to do with Lansdowne ‘Park’ (at which point they chose a competition), then Council would never had initiated an international competition. They would have presented this plan to the public, and nobody would ever complain about ‘sole-sourcing’ because nobody would have gotten a whiff of the idea of a competition. Competitions are great, but take 2 or 3 times as long.

      I went to Lansdowne this last weekend for the toy sale (no the toys weren’t for me). I parked on Holmwood Avenue and walked to the Aberdeen Pavilion. I never felt so isolated and disconnected from a city like I did during that walk. And not that kind of separation you feel when you walk through a nice urban park. An empty, sad separation, like you feel when you walk from your parking space to the entrance of a WalMart. The City has a good plan on the table, it just needs some refinement to find the right mix of sport, commercial, residential and open space. No matter which option the City chooses, something has to be done to make Lansdowne a part of the city.

    2. 2 Ottawan
    3. 3 Monique

      Thank you SO much for this recap. I will share it will all my friends n family. Also, Apt. 613 is awesome. One note, is it possible that after “Jyly 2008″, we should read “August 2009″?

    4. 4 Francois

      Hey Monique – you are right. Caught the mistake and fixed it!

    5. 5 davidasposted

      @Ottawan,

      The article you cite mischaracterizes the views of many who oppose the Lansdowne Live proposal, and its ‘take what you can get’ ethos with respect to development here in Ottawa seems troubling to me. What evidence is there to suggest that the citizens of this city would support a football franchise, that the revenue from attendance (who knows what those figures might amount to) will justify the expense of building a new stadium? What about studies which indicate the more appropriate building location for a stadium–with its easier access for out-of-town fans via the 417–is at Lebreton Flats? Will Ottawa really benefit from another mall, and what evidence is there to suggest that people will visit and shop in the numbers required to recoup building expenses? Why should we believe that the Ottawa city council is capable of seeing such a project to completion or within budget given their performance on LRT?

      Sole sourcing is an issue here because the Lansdowne Live proposal has all the signs of an inside deal, one that doesn’t clearly benefit the city’s residents, who will be stuck with a considerable portion of the bill.

    6. 6 Monique

      Francois, you’ve figure this out by now; there were 2 typos in my note about the typo. I feel terribly embarrassed and need to get it out of my system… my note should have said: after “July 2008″, we should read “August 2008″.

    7. 7 Ottawan

      @ davidasposted

      I agree…you took it personal…love the passion…get involved!

      Perhaps a letter to the Citizen is more appropriate then this forum.

    8. 8 Phil Castro

      No hot dogs or burgers :(

      or balloon animals….

    9. 9 John E. Martin

      Talk of the current proposal puts the cart before the horse.

      The procurement process has not been followed and the opinion of its legality is just that; an opinion and is before the court.

      A court of law will decide the matter sometime in Summer or Autumn 2010. The matter has been accepted at the Superior Court of Ontario and is awaiting scheduling.

      A Trust has been set up for legal expenses only for those who wish to support this application of Judicial Review and accompanying Injunction Motion. Those who wish to contribute to the Fund may find details at http://www.vo-ao.ca/legaltrustfund.pdf .

    10. 10 Phil Castro

      Is said cart a hot dog cart perhaps?

      I like hot dogs…

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